Thinking Out Loud

May 18, 2010

Community: At Church versus Online

This first appeared here a year ago, but for new readers, I thought it was worth a second look.

If your background is mainline

At a certain part of the service there is a time set aside for “the passing of the peace.” You greet one another with a hug or a handshake (or in a few places, a “holy” kiss) and say, “The peace of Christ,” or “The peace of Christ be with you.” In reply the other might say the same, or say, “And to you also;” or “And to you also, the peace of Christ.” If the church is smaller, you know these people, at least by name, but if it’s larger or it’s tourist season, you may not know them at all.

After the service there is a time when coffee and juice is served and you can engage people conversationally for about five minutes; usually people you already know. For an extended time like this, don’t miss the pancake breakfast and the strawberry tea held each year.

To get to know people a little deeper, or other people, you can join the choir, or volunteer for a host of guilds or committees that are always in need of help. You’ll also find a lot of the same people serve on civic projects and thereby will run into them in other contexts outside of the church itself. Don’t expect to break into the core community until you’re a “regular,” which occurs after you’ve attended and been involved for a gazillion years.

If your background is Evangelical

At a certain part of the service there is a time set aside for “greeting” or it may be formalized as “the ritual of friendship.” You greet one another with a hug or a handshake and say, “Good Morning;” or “Did you happen to catch the game yesterday?” In reply the other might say the same, or say, “Is that a new car I saw in the parking lot?” If the church is smaller, you might know these people, at least by name, or if it’s a mid-sized church, you can look them up in the photo directory when you get home.

After the service there is a time when coffee and juice is served and you can engage people conversationally for about five minutes; usually people you already know. For an extended time like this, don’t miss the annual potluck lunch and the annual bowling night.

To get to know people a little deeper, there isn’t a lot to volunteer for, since everything is done by the paid staff. The mens’ and womens’ retreats would help, but that’s $120 and $130 respectively. Better to join a small group. That way you’ll get to spend time in at least one person’s house each week, and get to know them and about four other families (or eight other singles) more intimately.

If your option is blogging community

There is a possibility that there will be people in your fellowship who you do not have any idea what they look like, or exactly where they live. However, you don’t have to wait for an opportunity to engage conversationally. Those opportunities occur at any time and may produce a variety of responses from a variety of people.

Through those conversations you will learn about their likes and dislikes, events in the life of their family, where they stand on a variety of issues, and what challenges and needs they face. You’ll possibly learn the names of — or see pictures of — their kids or their parents, be given insights into their job, and you’ll almost certainly know a little about every book they’ve read since they started blogging. And they’ll know the same about you.

You may find very quickly that their prayer requests become your prayer requests; you feel drawn to the needs of these people as one might with someone in their church family. If Twitter enters into the picture, you’ll know even more about their daily routine, the various thoughts and challenges that burst into the brain brought about by various stimuli. And if you Twitter, they’ll have that input from you also.

Plus, they will introduce you to their online friends, and you might pick a few of those to subscribe to or at least bookmark, and over time, perhaps their friends will become your friends also. It’s not unusual to pick up e-mail addresses from comments you’ve received and send out some off-the-blog messages. (In fact, two weeks ago, I sent out about 60 such e-mails about a project I wanted to get going that needed an off-the-blog start-up.)

Finally, if you want to get really hardcore, you might find yourself contemplating attending a bloggers event which sometimes take place in conjunction with other events, and at other times are stand-alone events. Not because online fellowship is insufficient, but simply because the relationships are already well established. (And nobody’s pretending to be a 17-year old girl from Ohio; at least I hope not!)

So at the end of the day, online community isn’t better or worse than Sunday church fellowship; it’s just different. And I would argue it’s a good different. One can’t entirely substitute for the other, and hopefully people using online community as a surrogate for a physical community that is currently absent from their life would, over time, find themselves drawn back to something resembling a church or house church; and then maintain a balance between the two relational paradigms.

A year later, I’m convinced that one of the problems in the Body of Christ is that we truly don’t know each other. You can attend a megachurch and be in a crowd of thousands yet feel completely alone. There is a desire to know others and be known. Or, as the theme from Cheers reminds us, “Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name / And they’re always glad you came.”

May 14, 2009

Will Evangelicalism Go the Way of Mainline Denominations?

Filed under: Christianity, Church, Religion — Tags: , , , , , , , , — paulthinkingoutloud @ 1:39 pm

Much discussion has followed the release of two surveys on Church affiliation in the United States.

The American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) triggered a reaction by Newsweek magazine, which got a response this week from Christianity Today online.   CT contends that what we’re seeing take place is a shifting from mainline to Evangelical preferences, counter to the Newsweek stance that the survey heralds the end of Christianity in America; something many feel the secular media is dying to announce.

I posted a comment to their article and — for reasons I can’t begin to imagine — the comment wasn’t accepted.    My thesis was and is that many of our so-called “new” denominations, such as the Assemblies of God or the Christian & Missionary Alliance, are actually over 100 years old.  (One C&MA leader used the term ‘geriatric’ about ten years ago.)

The potential “mainlining” of these groups is huge as traditions and modus operandi become entrenched.   But this is not all bad news.   The history of Christianity is a history of new groups and movements continuing to propel the Christian faith through history.    Since each movement is generally a reaction to what preceded it, one would wonder what will be the defining features of the movement which reacts to Evangelicalism.

(There, CT; I said it.   What was so unprintable about that?)

To read the CT article — including a link to the Newsweek piece — and add an unprintable comment of your own,  link here.

The other survey referenced online this week was The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life  survey entitled Faith in Flux: Changes in Religious Affiliation in the U.S.

I located this story by Michael Bell at the blog Eclectic Christian, which got it via Internet Monk.     You’ve got to read the article, but what caps it off is this graphic depiction of denominational migration.


The article breaks into an extended analysis, but knowing a couple of you aren’t going to link, here’s what you’re seeing in the visuals:

What you are looking at is changes in American adults, from their childhoods to present day. As such it eliminates such factors as birthrate and death rate, and strictly looks at who is changing to what. We should note that immigration is a factor in this chart as present day Americans may have been born elsewhere, and so their childhood would have been in a different country.

Again, when you click the link, you can also click on the graphic and see it full screen (1000 x 600).

Transfer growth is a touchy subject, especially for pastors who are losing parishioners to larger or flashier churches.   But again, the history of Christianity is a history of new movements.

I once heard it said that people migrate from church to church for one of two kinds of reasons:  “push factors” or “pull factors.”   While there are people who feel that someone ‘stepped on their toes;’ I believe most of the migration described here would be of the “pull factor” variety.

Do you attend the church you grew up in?   Have you changed churches in the last 12 months?   What precipitated your change?

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