Thinking Out Loud

May 26, 2013

Soulwinning in Africa

Filed under: Humor, missions — Tags: , , , — paulthinkingoutloud @ 9:39 am

Great quotation from Stuff Fundies Like, though you might want to click through for the photograph, which really makes this sing:

“People are so much more open to the gospel in East Botswana than they are here in the USA.”

Somehow the willingness of people to take tracts (that they can’t read), listen politely to a Romans Road presentation (that they don’t understand), and allow themselves to be coerced into saying The Prayer(TM) (that they can’t possibly grasp) translates into the idea that the rest of the world is still open to the Gospel while cold-hearted and money-minded Americans just aren’t that interested anymore. This, of course, means that money is much better spent on planting Independent Fundamental Baptist churches in Guinea-Bissau than caring for the homeless people who keep making a mess of the street in front of our church.

If you believe that the most effective evangelism is done in foreign lands by people who have little formal training, don’t understand the culture, and barely speak the language…you might be a fundamentalist.

August 6, 2012

Alleged Scandal at High Profile U.S. Baptist Church

I was going to save this for the link list on Wednesday, but this is a developing news story that is worthy of some attention now.

Normally, I don’t re-blog news events reported at Stuff Fundies Like, which is a site/blog devoted to people who grew up in ultra conservative Evangelical churches or more strict Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches, mostly because they usually involve people only known in that milieu, and while sexual scandals do occur — as they do in mainstream Evangelicalism and mainline Protestantism, too — they often take place in obscure churches in relatively backwater locations.

But Jack Schaap is a superstar in that movement, and First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana (south of Chicago) is the church pastored for many years by Schaap’s father-in-law, Jack Hyles. (As a child, I actually attended a service there once with my parents; and remembered the massivefleet of buses and assembly-line-styled baptisms.) On Wednesday night, CBS News in Chicago reported, “The longtime pastor of a northwest Indiana church has been dismissed due to an ‘improper relationship with a young woman.’Dr. Jack Schaap, who has been pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond for 11 years, was removed Tuesday, according to a church spokesman.”

While Darrell has done an amazing job with a handful of posts over the past few days at Stuff Fundies Like, those of you unfamiliar with Schaap or fundamentalism in general, might want to start with this summary at BDBO.

Note: At SFL there’s are highlights of an audio feed [Note: Mature Content] of a sermon that Schaap did on teen sexuality. While hindsight is always 20/20, I’d like to observe here that if your pastor is obsessed about sex, or extremely explicit about sex in his sermons –whether it’s Ed Young or Mark Driscoll — that might be a red flag. 

Also at SFL today there is a video of a talk that Lynda Hyles Murphy did after media reports — which she affirms — that FBC Hammond was a cult. The similarity between this and the audio feed of the interview with the granddaughter of TBN founders Paul and Jan Crouch is uncanny.

April 13, 2011

Wednesday Link List


  • Was going to link the above video, but decided it really needed to be here on its own.
  • Kathy Escobar gets invited to speak at a graduation by someone who wants to inspire the students by pushing the envelope; but then, when word is out that a woman pastor has been asked to speak, she gets un-invited.
  • It turns out Bethany Hamilton’s family had a tough fight with the film directors to keep the faith element visible in the movie Soul Surfer.  But the CNN article notes that removing the faith element would have killed the film entirely.
  • Rick Kirkpatrick launched a new site Worship Mythbusters which introduces an audio podcast — there are six so far — for worship leaders (and others) which runs about a half hour.  (We listened to episode three.)
  • “He did not consider equality with God something to be grasped…”  Most of us know this passage in Philippians well, and have assumed it to be an early church hymn, but Gordon Fee suggests it doesn’t fit an established pattern.
  • Mark Batterson figured the next phase for D.C.’s National Community Church would involve 3 to 4 years.  Then God said, “How about 3 to 4 weeks?”  The church is purchasing an existing church building on a Capitol Hill main street.
  • XXXChurch founder Craig Gross reminds us again what we’ve been hearing for a few years now: Addiction to adult content online is increasingly a problem for women.
  • Darrell at Stuff Fundies Like reviews last Friday night’s 20/20 program at ABC Television dealing with the IFB Church, or Independent Fundamentalist Baptists.  Speaking of which…
  • A young girl was allegedly removed from a Mennonite home where parents were following the book Train Up A Child by Michael and Debi Pearl, but because this child didn’t die, it didn’t get media attention.
  • David Fitch argues for a different type of church leader, with a half dozen descriptions of what that leader is, and what he or she isn’t.
  • My goodness!  There really is a typo in the climactic final line of Rob Bell’s Love Wins. Guess it happens to the best of them, right?
  • Bob Glenn acknowledges the WWJD type of thinking is harmful as it reduces Christian living to a slogan.
  • It’s time again for Kent Shaffer’s list of the top 200 Christian blogs.  And once again, I am quite sure, this blog was # 201!!
  • Rachel Held Evans quotes her own book with a disturbing suggestion that in advancing apologetics, we created a monster.
  • If you remember the humor and satire blog, Tom in the Box, you might want to know that it has somewhat resurfaced as The Heretic Mug Collection.
  • And Jason Boyett has mellowed out a little at his new home at Beliefnet. Check out his series of interviews on different types of “conversion” experiences.
  • On February 25th, Jim Lehmer decided that social media is about to collapse, and he hasn’t blogged since.  Obviously getting ready for what he calls, “the great un-friending.’
  • Is it just me or does pastor Steven Furtick’s blog render completely differently in Firefox than it does in Chrome?
  • To wrap up this week… If you’re the parent of a tween, you already know who Rebecca Black is, and the song that what follows below is a well-done parody of… (I think they actually improved the song!)

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