Thinking Out Loud

September 26, 2015

Some People Want Their Gospel Served A Certain Way

So it all started when our friends at Flagrant Regard posted this graphic image on Facebook.

Ligon Duncan on Preaching the Gospel

At first, I kinda tensed up because Ligon Duncan is very highly revered among traditional Reformers and New Calvinists alike. You’re very likely to see him speaking at things like the Together for the Gospel Conference. So my immediate reaction was, if he hates it, I’m probably for it.

So I was pleased when some people I know immediately weighed in, the first being my wife:

There are a few places in the Bible where God says he reveals himself, wordlessly, through creation. If he can do that, he can certainly show who he is through our grace and love and giving. It’s our job to then answer when asked, and to speak when the opportunities arise. Maybe the problem is the word ‘preach’, which can be narrowly interpreted by some. It might be better to ‘live’ the gospel. This quote strikes me as being a melodramatic over-correction to people who never speak Jesus at all.

The next was our friend Carol:

It seems, understanding the Biblical intent initiated by St.Francis d’Assisi in the top statement, one would see the incongruity of the the second. When Jesus said to Peter “Feed my sheep”, he did not expect Peter to run out and give hay to a flock of sheep. His intention was more inclining to nurture persons to learn of God’s love through actions and example. “Nurture” and “Nourish” come from the same Latin verb root “nutrire” so actual giving of food is not excluded But St.Francis seemed to be alluding to the spiritual side. We can “preach” the Gospel without words by our actions and attitudes toward others. Matt.5:16 “Let your light so shine……..”. Mark 12:31 “Love thy neighbor…..”. Matt. 6:14-15 “For if you forgive…..”. + many many more examples. These, to me, seem to portray the concept to which St. Francis was alluding.

These 2 statements do not belong together !!!

To that, I say a hearty “Amen.” (We’re not sure if St. Francis of Assisi gets the credit for this, though; but that detail is trivial.)

But on the FB page from which my friends at FR obtained the graphic, there was some support.

I’ve heard the above-the-plate nonsense spewed by evangelicals. You have to wonder just how this anti-biblical Pabulum made it into the mainstream?

Notice the difference in the tone of that remark versus the two above. But even there, this comment:

…The meaning though isn’t that you should never preach, but that your actions toward others should be consistent with the Gospel. It’s a paradoxical statement meant to make a deeper point.

For my part, the quotation appeared in my Twitter feed:

Ligon Duncan quote exchange with Eric Carpenter
I suggested reading the two responses at Flagrant Regard, and got the answer you see above. I looked up the person with whom I found myself in this rather heated exchange (that’s not my usual style) and noted that they seemed to have an affinity to other writers that would tend to want to support Ligon Duncan at all costs. We have an earlier blog post here devoted to the fact it is in the nature of people within a certain doctrinal strand to protect the brand at all costs.

But alas, the doctrinal strand to which I refer is a version of Christianity that is all about words, and words only. To their credit, these are the people who founded many Christian publishing companies. To their detriment, these are the people who dominate the Christian internet with their cheering for the home team and endless re-blogging of articles written by their heroes in that movement.

For me it always comes back to the rhetorical question, “Why are there no Salvation Army bloggers?” (Actually there are a small few.) The answer to the question is, “While everybody else is writing about it, they’re out doing it.” I raised that point in this post, where I also noted that those on one particular side of the fence seem to have a militant wing that doesn’t exist on the other side. Worse, this internet domination and barrage of words often becomes the only thing people see.

I guess the thing that ticked me off the most, was the guy in the above exchange on Twitter saying, “Sorry, but I don’t have time to read rebuttals.” Reminds me of the number of bloggers in that same doctrinal system who no longer accept comments.

I just fail to see anyone would be attracted to that brand of Christianity.

Ligon Duncan is not one of my spiritual heroes. I’m not part of that movement, he doesn’t speak for me, though I did take some time to listen to him in one of the T4G live feeds in the interest of open-mindedness. His remark may make for a nice Twitter or Facebook graphic, but it’s a great adventure in missing the point. It has an air of logic and spirituality but is actually a giant put-down of people who don’t fit his extremely narrow view of who God is and what God can use.

To which I say, “Preach the gospel, and then if necessary, know when to shut up.”

September 3, 2015

Content Not Copyrighted

There is no limit on what can be done for God as long as it doesn’t matter who is getting the earthly credit.

There’s a worship song currently making the rounds that goes, “It’s your breath, in our lungs, so we pour out our praise; pour out our praise…”  To me, the song is a reminder that it’s God who gives us breath, gives us abilities, gives us opportunities and one of the best uses of that is to offer back praise to him.

For the third time in nearly 2,000 posts, this week we got a take-down order at Christianity 201. Yes, it would be nice to have a staff and be able to contact writers in advance and say, “We think your writing would be a great addition to C201 and we’d like to include what you wrote last Tuesday in our gallery of devotional articles.” But I just don’t have that luxury. So we pay the highest compliments to our writers by encouraging our readers to check out their stuff at source, while at the same time archiving it for the many who we know statistically don’t click through. 

The one this week offered some lame excuse about how I was disturbing his Google analytics by publishing his works, and reminded me that he could sue me. Nice attitude, huh?

These days, most of the authors are appearing for the second, third or fourth time, and many write (both on and off the blog) to say how honored they are that we find their material helpful.

I honestly can’t remember the name of the first two authors, but I know one had some recognition in Calvinist circles; so when the lightning struck again this week, I checked out the guy’s Twitter to look for clues and guess what?

That got me thinking about something I wrote here about 16 months ago…

The Bible has a lot to say about the accumulation of wealth and the hoarding of possessions. Probably the classic statement of scripture on the matter is,

NASB Matt. 6:19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal…


MSG Matt. 6:19-21 “Don’t hoard treasure down here where it gets eaten by moths and corroded by rust or—worse!—stolen by burglars. Stockpile treasure in heaven, where it’s safe from moth and rust and burglars. It’s obvious, isn’t it? The place where your treasure is, is the place you will most want to be, and end up being.

The Bible doesn’t say, ‘Don’t have any treasure whatsoever.’ True, when Jesus sent his disciples out he told them to travel light, advice that extends through all of life:

NLT Matt. 10:9 “Don’t take any money in your money belts—no gold, silver, or even copper coins. 10 Don’t carry a traveler’s bag with a change of clothes and sandals or even a walking stick.

But in everyday life, the Bibles teaching presuppose you will have a home or a donkey or bread that you may or may not choose to give your neighbor when he comes knocking late at night.

CopyrightThis week it occurred to me that at the time the Bible was written, one thing that we can possess that they didn’t was intellectual property. There was no Copyright Act; no Letters Patent. Did Jesus’ earthly father, Joseph the Carpenter have a special way of doing a table that would cause him great consternation if Murray the Carpenter down the road started copying the idea? You get the feeling that everything was open source.

I think it’s interesting that in the prior verse of Matthew 10, Jesus makes the often-quoted statement, “Freely you have received, now freely give.”

Personally, there’s nothing on this blog that isn’t up for grabs, provided it’s cited properly and quoted properly and being used non-commercially. Like this article? Help yourself. Yes, in the past I have been paid to write and could thereby consider myself a professional writer; but this is only a blog and it’s vital not to get too caught up in your own sense of self-importance; and I say that not out the spirit of someone who is loaded with wealth, but as a person who has had no specific fixed income for 19 years.

I also thought it was interesting that the one person who was so upset about the use of his material on other than his own website was complaining about a particular article that was about 50% scripture quotations. More than 50%, I believe. Oh, the irony. I can just hear Jesus saying, ‘Uh, could you just link to my words in the Bible rather than print them out on your own website?’

That said, I am consciously aware that a double standard exists in the Christian blogosphere. We both permit and excuse the copying of text, but there is far less grace for poachers of cartoons and photographs. (I guess a picture really is worth a thousand words.) If you take what belongs to them, it’s like trying to wrestle a t-bone from a pit-bull.

In the early days of this blog, the weekly link list included cartoons from Baptist Press. Not any more. Baptists can be very litigious, which is too bad, because the cartoons were worthy of an audience beyond a single denomination. Everybody loses, but that’s the Baptist way, I guess.

Words are cheaper however. I respect intellectual property rights in general, but hey, guys, it’s only a blog.

I really think when the writer is a little older, they will look back and see the foolishness of trying to hang on to what really isn’t yours to begin with.

Think About It: Some things simply didn’t exist when the Bible was written, such as smoking cigarettes or driving over the speed limit. It’s the same with intellectual property. We have to appeal to the timeless, grand themes of scripture to make behavioral determinations.

The corollary to this is that if I do choose to copyright my blog writing here, I am basically saying this is mine; I wrote this, I created it, it was my talents and my gifts that went into creating it.

I’m glad the Biblical writers didn’t feel that way. If you believe in plenary inspiration — that God birthed ideas within them but they stylized it and added their individual touch to the writing — then even if you hold that “all Scripture is inspired” (which I do) you could still make a case that they could copyright the particular words used.

copyright 2But some would argue that even if you say, “This came entirely from God and I shouldn’t really take any credit for it;” if you want your writing to reach the greatest number of people, then you’ve got to put somebody’s name underneath the title.

That’s essentially the case with Jesus Calling. I don’t want to get into the larger debate on that book, because it’s been done elsewhere (with many comments) but if, like the classic God Calling, the “authors” feel that this book is the equivalent to Dictation Theory in Biblical inspiration, realistically, nobody’s name should appear on the cover. I wonder if “by Jesus” or “by God” would sell more or fewer copies than “by Sarah Young.”

You can however engage the commercial marketplace and at the same time take no money (or very little) for your wares. Keith Green is a name that some of the younger generation don’t know, but Keith basically said that if anyone couldn’t afford his records or cassettes, he would send them copies free of charge. It was radical at the time — this was before free downloads — and Keith took ribbing that perhaps he was also going to ship stereo systems to people who had nothing on which to play the music.

Keith GreenKeith Green would have loved blogging — he’d have about ten of them — and would be fighting hard for the open source blogosphere mentioned above, and also  when the first writer protested. (The post then was triggered by an irate blogger at C201 as well, so we’re running one complaint every 700+ articles, which isn’t bad.) In fact, Keith would argue for open source thinking in a variety of Christian media and art.

Bottom line: We have to be careful about holding too tightly to the things of this world including possessions that are tangible and those which are intangible such as intellectual property. 

Moving forward: We’ll try to stick to repeat authors and original devotional material. If you’ve ever wondered if you could write devotional material — and it’s both a rare and challenging calling — check out the submissions guidelines at C201.  

“It’s your breath, in our lungs, so we pour out our praise…”

August 10, 2015

Blogroll Update # 4

linksIncludes some core blogs I use frequently never listed before — see second section.

It’s only been a few weeks since we did this last, but the list is always growing and some of you truly appreciate this feature! (Note: These are my personal bookmarks, and are not directly related to what appears in the published blogroll you see here every day.)

Here’s the link to part one. (The really big one.)

Here’s the link to part two. (Just four months ago.)

Here’s the link to part three. (Just ten weeks ago, included my news sources.)

And here comes part four. (Much shorter this time; hit Ctrl and + if hard to read)

I also wanted for the first time include some favorites that I keep in a separate section I call “Aggregators.” These are people who, while not listed in the “Christian News Sources” I listed in a previous list, often run multiple links similar to our Wednesday Link List. If I have trouble finding stories on Tuesday night, I know these sites have probably got some worth stealing.

There are some inconsistencies in the type of blogs/sites listed here, but they all have in common that they potentially link you to other sources, at the very least in their own blogrolls. (Things like Alltop are part of this list as I have it, but I’ve left them out since they’re here every day in the list at the side margin.) Some of the top Christian blogs are included in this list, don’t complain to me if you spend hours in this section!




June 15, 2015

An Open Letter to Steve Finnell

Filed under: blogging, Christianity — Tags: , , — paulthinkingoutloud @ 7:13 am

Dear Steve,

I can only speak for myself here, but a number of us who have blogs have encountered you in our comments section, and despite the fact I don’t post your copy-and-paste remarks, they keep coming. I’ve tried to contact you directly on this, but with new comments occasionally continuing to arrive, I thought we’d try this format.

Steve FinnellI love your passion. Just a tree or plant explodes many seeds, you scatter a great many messages that land in a great many places. That takes time, and dedication and a deep conviction that you’ve got the hottest news on the rack.

But blogging was never intended to be what you expect of it. Rather, it started out as social media which means the comments created community. I can’t tell you how many people I now exchange offline communications with that began with our interactions in the response section of various blogs.

You can’t build rapport, or have a dialog with people when you simply copy/paste mass commentaries. You seem to to be content to be a troll, and as you’re trolling and looking for certain keywords, you then interject your comment/sermon without any direct reference to the article or piece in question.

Calling you a troll hurts, because theologically, we’re probably on the same team on the essentials. But, you’re going about it all wrong.

And Steve, you’ve been on the internet long enough to know that using CAPITAL LETTERS just turns people off. You’re yelling at them, Steve; and that’s not how to make friends.

You see, it’s not enough to have the truth. Ephesians 4:15 says (and I know you like Bible verses) “Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.” It equates maturity in the Christian life not to just speaking truth, but doing so in a loving manner. Part of that I believe comes in earning the right to be heard.

Steve, wouldn’t be a shame if instead of drawing people to the Kingdom of God, you were driving them away?

Your internet/blogging friend,

June 5, 2015

Today is Blog Post # 3200

 So years ago, we were driving along in the car, when my oldest son suddenly got very loud and said, “LOOK at the odometer, it’s 143,517.” In his mind, this number was as worth celebrating as the ones that end in a lot of zeroes. (For my U.S. readers, and those in whatever is the only other country that didn’t go metric, that’s kilometers, not miles.) It was a rather funny moment. He tends to think outside the box. Last night, he cooked spaghetti and used cornbread to make garlic bread. It actually worked quite well.

But this truly my 3,200th blog post, and that’s just here at Thinking Out Loud.

Hairy Brother

As you might imagine, 3,200 posts can wear a guy out, so we thought we’d get lazy today and post some visuals. Hairy Brother is one of a long series of movie poster knockoffs created for the Orange kidmin (Children’s ministry) program. Click the image to get into the store and see more. A lot of churches use Orange, but some don’t know that the driving force behind it is Reggie Joiner, who started out with Andy Stanley at North Point. Considering that Louis Giglio (Passion Conferences) also started there got me wondering how many different ministries sprang from this one Atlanta church. Anyone got the time to research that one?

Also, a few weeks ago I ran a story on the current trend of revamping the hymns for fun and profit. I wish I’d had this cartoon at hand at the time. I’m not sure of who the artist is, but it’s from one of the many Christian comic collections that were common in the mid-80s.

New Tunes for Old Hymns

Finally, this video clip has been languishing in a back alley of YouTube for several months, with a very low view count. It’s an auto-tuned version of Handel’s Hallelujah Chorus. If you have the time click through to the video channel; the guy has some rather brilliant stuff posted. (Check out the National Anthem mash up.)

May 25, 2015

Blogroll Update # 3

This is the third time we’ve done this. Use the comments to add anyone you feel is missing, but make sure first they’re not in one of the previous lists. (Note: These are my personal bookmarks, and are not directly related to what appears in the published blogroll you see here every day.)

Here’s the link to part one. (The really big one.)

Here’s the link to part two. (Just two months ago.)

And here comes part three. (Much shorter)

Bareknuckle Bible | Loving the truth even when it doesn’t feel good
Laughter is a Leap | Let’s hop to it! | Musings, questions, and ideas of a minister/theologian
Millennial Evangelical
The Untenable Position of a Whale
Baptist News Global Perspectives – Conversations that matter
Beautiful Feet
Christian Standard | Archive for Mark A. Taylor
Life’s a Journey
Philosophical Fragments — Timothy Dalrymple
Sincere Son of the Sanctifier | Canoeing up denial river
David Black Online
thehopeforlife | Finding true freedom through Jesus
yes i like paul stanley
KindlingWord | Thoughts to ignite the heart
The Isaiah 53:5 Project | My chief concern is to try to be a humble, earnest Christian
Bedlam Magazine
The Rabbit Room
Paul’s Ponderings » Thoughts from an imperfect disciple.
Euangelion — A Post-Post-Modern Blog On Scripture, Faith and Following Jesus
For His Renown | That the glory of the Lord might cover the dry land as the waters cover the sea
blog |
In Focus | The Team Brilliant Blog
By Faith We Understand – the proof of what is unseen
Climbing the Assimilayas
Ponder Anew – Theology in Worship
Deeper Waters – Diving into the ocean of truth
Thimblerig’s Ark
Mark Moore’s Blog | I’m simply an apprentice. . .
AJ Swoboda | Blog
Brady’s Blog
Front Page About – Am I Called?
i already am – Learning 2 Be, Who I Already Am
A Christian Worldview of Fiction
CREATION to ESCHATON | J. Richard Middleton
One Passion One Devotion | know God… make Him known…
The Briefing | challenging convictions, encouraging ministry
HeadHeartHand Blog: Informing Minds. Moving Hearts. Directing Hands.
For Such a Time as This
Blake Mankin

Also, here’s a revised extended news link list, which overlaps on what you see daily in the side margin. If you know someone just starting out in Christian journalism, this list is worth its weight in gold.

FaithWorld | Analysis & Opinion |
Christianity Today Gleanings
Christian News, The Christian Post
Christian News on Christian Today
Faith and Leadership | A learning resource for Christian leaders from Duke Divinity
Christian news, church news, – FaithfulNews
Christian Newswire – Up to the Minute Christian News
Religion News Service | Religion News in Photos, Articles & Video
The Aquila Report —  Reformed and Presbyterian family of churches
Religion Dispatches
Christian News Headlines
K-LOVE News Page
News | The Christian Institute
R+R Weekly | Weekly News by Christian Booksellers Association Retailers – Your News Right Now
World Religion News, Religious Views, Spirituality – HuffPost Religion
Spiritual Sounding Board
CBN News – Christian News 24-7 –
On Faith: News and opinion on religion and politics – The Washington Post
Persecution News of Churches Persecuted & Christian Sufferings
Forum 18 Latest News
WORLD Magazine | Today’s News, Christian Views
Religious News – SRN News
Christian News Network
WND – Faith
BBC Religion & Ethics
Breaking Christian News
ASSIST News Service
Faithit: Change the World. Share What Matters.
TheBlaze – Breaking news and opinion
Holy Post | National Post
The Old Black Church!  (Ann Brock is one of my secret sources!)
Belief –
News |
Premier Christianity
Mission Network News – Mission Network News
On Religion – The UK’s first magazine about faith, religion and society
God Reports
BuzzVine | The Christian Post
Converge MagazineConverge
Baptist News, Opinion, Resources, Inspiration | Baptist Standard
The Journal of Gospel Music –
Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project
Read the Spirit | Spiritual, Interfaith, Cross-Cultural Media
News | The Living Church
News & Events
Rush to Press, news from Christian publishing industry
Ecumenical – Daily Christian, Ecumenical News Online
The Association of Religion Data Archives – U.S. and World Religion Statistics and Data
United Christian News
The College Fix
These Christian Times
Now The End Begins: End Times Bible Prophecy
Christian News Portal, South Africa
Parents As First Educators
Religion Dispatches
Christian Daily
Jewish News & Israel News –
ABC Religion & Ethics (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Faith Feed Magazine
religion | The Africa Report
Religion News Blog
Sports Spectrum – Christian Sports Magazine, Christian Athletes and Profiles, Faith-based Influences
Christian Examiner Newspapers | Christian News, Commentary, Events



May 1, 2015

Connecting People and Resources

I’ve written before about the common thread in all the different ministry ventures I’ve worked with. With radio, I got to introduce people to new songs and new artists. With worship leading, I got to connect people to vehicles that could be part of their personal expression of praise to God. As a book and music reviewer, the motivation was more obvious. As a blogger, I get to share information about other voices online. As a link list curator for Leadership Journal, I was able, by the news and opinion pieces I noted, to be influential in the lives of Christian leaders.

radio-towerI guess I like facilitating a whole load of networking.

But let’s return to radio for a minute. If I were to return to it — and I did look into various avenues — I would no longer get to choose the songs being played unless I brokered the airtime and picked the playlist myself. Radio stations either use consultants or have their own formula for choosing what goes into the rotation. Even the morning show guys, when they’re done with their banter, simply play the next song on the list.

You could solve this, I suppose by being the consultant or music director, but there are only so many openings, and even in small-to-medium markets, it’s often just one guy who controls a number of regional stations.

With worship leading, similar formulas apply. There’s often a tacit understanding that if a new song was introduced by last week’s team, you’re expected to continue with that song over the next three weeks. In demographically wide churches, you draw from different sources representing different ages and tastes to create an eclectic music set.

Music reviews largely don’t exist. Unless you write for Relevant Magazine, you’re about 500 times more likely to receive books in the mail to review than a CD. (We’ve reviewed several here, but it’s the exception, not the rule.) Bloggers tend not to be excited about specific books as they were five years ago; as Christian publishing faces challenges there are fewer and fewer new writers stepping onto the scene; and there appears not to be the push by publishers to utilize social media.

With my role at PARSE now ended, I look for new ways to share the passion of sharing. The one role that never ends is my two days a week at the Christian bookstore. There, I still have some influence, though there is always the suspicion on the part of some that I’m wearing my shopkeeper hat, and not my role as friend, counselor, or helper. Where ministry and retail converge, it’s not always an ideal fit.

My observation there is always the same: The greatest connector for people and products is the local church pastor, but for that to work, the pastors first need to know about the book in question, and most don’t have the interest, the time, or both.

But trust me, from YouTube to the Christian blogosphere to the world of Christian music and publishing, there are a ton of resources out there.

Finding and utilize them will enrich your life, and the lives of family members, extended family, neighbors, co-workers and others in your circle.

April 18, 2015

Thinking Out Loud after PARSE

Link List - Out of Ur22 Months ago, an email from Skye Jethani changed things around here and forced me to raise the bar on what I was doing with the Wednesday Link Lists. He wrote,

I’m a fan of your Wednesday Link List. Not only is it helpful and concise, but I enjoy some of the wit and whimsy of your comments. I think the readers of Leadership Journal’s blog, Out of Ur, would benefit from what you’ve created. I wanted to explore the possibility of having your weekly link list published on our site in order to give it a wider audience.

Just days later, the first installment appeared at Out of Ur, later renamed PARSE.

I have always had great admiration for Christianity Today, and I wish there were space here to list the great Christian writers and leaders who have had staff positions with its various publications. I actually applied to be a columnist at Leadership Journal (their website is the parent to PARSE) in the days before the internet, and still have the rejection letter from Kevin Miller. If you’re going to be turned down, at least be turned by the best.

Out of UrI will admit that I got carried away at times. One of the lists had 38 links in it. So more recently we transitioned to a new format whereby there would be far fewer stories, much longer excerpts, and a twice weekly format that was originally envisioned as ten on Wednesday five on Saturday, but ended up being close to ten each time. I will admit that I still get carried away at times.

The biggest joy of writing for people at Leadership Journal was knowing that the material I selected was being seen by people in full time vocational ministry. It was, in its own small way, a means whereby an ordinary writer like me could be an influencer.  In an earlier lifetime, I had stepped down from a similar monthly column at Contemporary Christian Music (CCM) magazine with the closing line, “While it’s a fine thing to write the news, I think it’s a better thing to make the news.”  (Actually, it was the dark ages, and italics had not been invented yet.)

Now I’m not so sure that was wise. Certainly, as a frustrated musician, it was hard to write of others’ successes, but this time around, in a world where everyone has a blog and is clamoring for attention, there is some honor in choosing what types of news stories and opinion pieces people see.

Working with people whose opinions and perspective on Christianity and culture resonate with me has been a blast, even if we’ve never met face to face. I can’t thank Skye Jethani enough for the opportunity, and also thank Paul Pastor, Drew Dyck and Tim Gioia for doing the legwork of making what I wrote visible to so many. 

But alas, things change, so last week I was abruptly told by Drew Dyck,

…After many years, first as “Out of Ur” then as PARSE, we will be shutting down our blog.  I’ve been incredibly grateful for the awesome job you’ve done for us. I still don’t know how you manage to track down all the relevant/interesting stories for church leaders around the web—and then do such a great job of setting them up. Anyway, with Paul Pastor gone, maintaining a multi-voice blog has been a challenge…

So as suddenly as it began, it ended.

Ironically, PARSE just won Third Place in the Blog category at an Evangelical Press Association awards night, and is also the #15 blog on the latest Top 300 list from Church Relevance. I’m not sure that dumping a relatively hot internet property like that is wise, especially when blogs are struggling to maintain readership numbers. But that’s their call.

Again, I am so thankful for the opportunity to work with a great team.

…And now we come to where I need your help. The Wednesday Link List will continue. I’m not sure about the Weekend Link List however. The question is, do you like the excerpts or would you prefer the original listing of nothing but bullet points?

Please email me via the contact page, or leave a comment right here or on Twitter.

And if you manage a Christian website that has a budget, use the contact page if you’d like to offer the Wednesday Link List a new home.

March 17, 2015

Here Come More and More and More Blogs

Filed under: blogging — Tags: , — paulthinkingoutloud @ 7:27 am

Back in October I dumped my entire load of bookmarks marked “Blogs” on unsuspecting readers. I’m not sure if anyone in particular really got a whole lot out of that, but now that my computer is definitely dying, I feel the need to preserve some of the newer entries in the cloud, while at the same time appearing to do something altruistic. Please note that this list does not include bloggers who themselves do regular link lists — I have those filed as “Aggregators” — or Christian news sites, which are already listed here in the margin. Oh, and some people are on this list simply because they have new addresses or the ones that appeared previously were incorrect.

Philip Yancey | Author, Thinker, Climber
Faith | Sue’s Trifles – Christian News | Inspirational Stories
Nearly Christian – A Christian community devoted to the journey
Blog – The Janet Mefferd Show
Michael May’s Adventureblog | Exploring the Heart of Restoration
The Blog of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship –
Faith Archives –
Power of Change
Ratanak International
The Morning Drive
Christianity 201 (I just snuck this in the list, it was already in the other one)
Blog | Tim Gioia
Blog – Deb Mills
Memes Archives | Catholic Memes
old time religion by Jim Linderman
Samuel’s Notebook – A Blog of Inklingations
Learning Domestic Discipline: The Blog (please don’t take this one too seriously)
Reflections –
Blog | KW Redeemer
Home – Ecelectic Contemplations
the Jesus Event | the blog of Tyler M. Tully
Ken Wytsma
Desperately Wanting To Believe Again | From ashes to new life
Atlas Church
Sketches By Boze | An ongoing exploration of faith, culture, myth, life, art.
Café Seminoid | Inspiring the Aspiring
Archbishop Cranmer
David Santistevan | A Blog For Worship Leaders & Musicians
Then My Youth Said
Hope Stands | Never Without Hope
Paul J. Pastor
Christian Book Shop Talk (another one of my own)
Life’s a Journey
Ryan Huguley
Worthily Magnify | Helping Worship Leaders Lead Well
Phil Cooke « Engage | Influence | Activate Phil Cooke – The Lectionary Comic
Living On Tilt
Church for Men —
Bible Knowledge Ministries – Bible Teaching Website
ForeWords | Lectionary Musings within the Community of Christ
Tuesdays with Morris | Jason B. Morris
Christian Courier
Stand to Reason Blog
First Things | America’s Most Influential Journal of Religion & Public Life
Road Report by FarmingtonGlenn
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February 24, 2015

Seven Years of Thinking Out Loud

Number 7 Quickview Bible

The first post, February 24, 2008 We began this journey as a response to comments I was getting from an email newsletter I produced that people “liked the articles.” The first post was titled “Honestly! The world DOES need another blog page!” and consisted of some excerpts from the 2003 book A is for Abductive by Leonard Sweet, Brian McLaren and Jerry Haselmayer. Interesting to look back and consider that aspect of the blog’s beginning alone.

…It appears that God may be more active outside the church than in it. In other words, “inside the church” may not be the best place to share in God’s work, and if we want to be involved in God’s work, we may need to get out more.

…It may be more valid to celebrate this idea of God’s activity outside the church, because perhaps God’s purpose for the church all along has been to equip people to be agents through whom God works in the world.

…It may be helpful for us to distinguish between “church work” (i.e. our work inside the church to keep it going) and “the work of the church” (i.e. the church fulfilling its mission in the world). …The old complaint about 20% of the people doing 80% of the church work in this light may be misguided. If the minority (20%) can do church work, then maybe the majority (80%) can focus on serving God outside the box and boat.

First Anniversary, February 24, 2009 – Noted the day before that the first year I wrote 660 posts, an average of two a day.

I figured I wouldn’t write anything; I’d just use a huge backlog of articles I’d developed in other places for other reasons.    Boy, did I get that one wrong.   As every Israelite knows, the manna doesn’t stay fresh for long.

I also figured I’d read more stuff online, but didn’t realize that other bloggers would spur me on to read more books as well.   Do I get a diploma for doing this?   A little academic credit perhaps?”

Second Anniversary, February 23, 2010 – Had to celebrate a day early because the midweek link list was already becoming a priority.  It was noted that:

Thinking Out Loud began the same week as two other blogs, 22 Words and Stuff Christians Like…

…It’s also interesting to note that — as far as Canada is concerned — each day, I get to speak to six times as many adults than half of all pastors here see on Sunday morning…

Too bad those other two blogs never amounted to anything! My statement of purpose at this point was:

I also want to continue to make this a blog for the ‘spiritual commoner.’   That’s the person who feels he or she has a real contribution to make to the life of their church, Christian fellowship or broader community…

Third Anniversary, February 24, 2011 – Christianity 201 had launched that year…

I remember years ago participating in a discussion about the “emerging” internet where the main concern ran something like this, “How are they ever going to get enough content to keep those websites supplied with fresh material?”

How indeed?

In 2011, a better question might be, “How does one find enough hours in the day to read all the sites they are subscribed to or have bookmarked?” I figure a typical week lands me on about 1,000 different types of internet sites, and I don’t consider myself a heavy online user. Every single person reading this actually has a completely unique internet experience weekly.

Today, this blog enters year four. I have mixed feelings about that. I’m happy that this blog has become a voice albeit in a crowded room of voices all talking at once. I’m continually amazed — and somewhat humbled — that hundreds of you show up here every day, many just to see what’s been posted recently…

…There is much to be thankful for today. I actually oversee seven blogs now, of which the latest, Christianity 201, has arrived on the scene since we celebrated this time last year. It keeps me humbled. Very humbled. While some endeavors in the Christian life remind you how far you’ve come and what you have accomplished, C201 reminds me of how far I’ve got to go.  Jesus set the bar rather high.

A handful of you also read my book industry blog, Christian Book Shop Talk… Yesterday’s post had someone suggesting bookstores are going the way of record shops and video rental stores. Sigh. In that setting, I get to be a voice in an increasingly empty room…

Fourth Anniversary, February 24, 2012 – A rather light and concise post:

I decided to check the blog’s dashboard to see what other meaningful statistic I could parade out before you on this solemn occasion, and I found this:

Akismet has protected your site from 294,600 spam comments already.

I don’t know how that compares with the big boys, but I’m honored just to think that on 294,600 occasions Russian models and manufacturers of imitation European handbags found this particular blog so worth spamming. And while the rest of the blog stats may pale in comparison, just think how quickly they are about to rise now that we’ve used the phrase ‘Russian models.’

Fifth Anniversary, February 24, 2013This one is probably the most interesting and the only one I’ll actually link to here. I listed, in no particular order, ten things I’ve learned in the course of reading and writing Christian blogs. I might re-run this item later in the week, but in the meanwhile, here is the link. There was also a regular anniversary column the day before:

I am really happy that I launched Thinking Out Loud all those years ago. I have met some of the greatest people, been encouraged to read some of the most interesting books, have been kept abreast of some of the most bizarre religious news stories, and mostly, I have been forced to think about things that I might have never considered.

Sixth Anniversary, February 24, 2014 At this point the Wednesday Link List had become part of what is now called PARSE, the former Out of Ur blog.

I’m also thankful that this summer, Thinking Out Loud gained a greater platform itself by becoming a weekly part of life at Leadership Journal, a division of Christianity Today. I still believe it’s a greater thing to make the news (in a good way, not the weird stories) than it is to simply write the news. But I don’t mind playing scribe if it means I get to choose some things I think are worth noting as part of each week’s passing scene.

I am truly grateful for being able to be in online contact with an organization I have always respected and some people who I was already aware of. Thanks to Skye, Drew, Paul P. and Tim for your encouragement.

…which brings us to Seventh Anniversary, February 24, 2015 


7 is the perfect number

I thought of including a screenshot of the first column, but like the McDonald’s logo, not much has changed here visually. 3,094 published columns later, I’m still happy I started this little project.

As blog readership continues to wane as people have so many choices online, I’m pleased to report that Christianity 201 continues to attract new readers. If you ask me which blog I think about first thing in the morning, it really does vary. I enjoy doing both, and while I could have kept both types of articles on a single platform at Thinking Out Loud, I’m glad that separating them forces me to look at both types of writing on a daily basis.

If you read widely on the Christian internet, you know that the definition of evangelical is currently under the microscope, but I want to keep the writing at Thinking Out Loud somewhat mainstream evangelical as I believe that the voices from the margins tend to dominate. That said however, those voices have much to contribute.

There’s an adage that “even a stopped clock is wrong twice a day,” and I feel that instead of looking for the thing to criticize, we ought to look for the little gems — the nuggets of gold — where writers we might otherwise disagree with actually do get it right. Unfortunately, there isn’t a lot of grace online, even among Christians. This always saddens me.

I think that’s why doing the link list is so much fun. Again, I am forced to read the widest variety of Christian news and opinion pieces from a vast field of writers I might not otherwise consider. I may disagree totally with what they wrote Thursday and Saturday, but if they make some good points on Friday, I want to be able to celebrate that.

I’d like to think that I am capable of sitting down for coffee with any writer who has trusted in the atoning work of Christ on Calvary for salvation. I do know that some of them might not want to reciprocate that. That is unfortunate and I believe grieves the Holy Spirit.

In conclusion, I guess I’m just grateful for what this writing platform had done for my own Christian growth and understanding of the Church, the body of Christ. I’m also thankful for the books it compels me to read which enhance my understanding of God and His ways. And last, I’m thankful for you, the faithful readers whose page views and link clicks demonstrate a shared interest in these things.

Thinking Out Loud: Matters of Faith Because Faith Matters

Year 8 begins tomorrow with the Wednesday Link List





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