Thinking Out Loud

August 6, 2012

Alleged Scandal at High Profile U.S. Baptist Church

I was going to save this for the link list on Wednesday, but this is a developing news story that is worthy of some attention now.

Normally, I don’t re-blog news events reported at Stuff Fundies Like, which is a site/blog devoted to people who grew up in ultra conservative Evangelical churches or more strict Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches, mostly because they usually involve people only known in that milieu, and while sexual scandals do occur — as they do in mainstream Evangelicalism and mainline Protestantism, too — they often take place in obscure churches in relatively backwater locations.

But Jack Schaap is a superstar in that movement, and First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana (south of Chicago) is the church pastored for many years by Schaap’s father-in-law, Jack Hyles. (As a child, I actually attended a service there once with my parents; and remembered the massivefleet of buses and assembly-line-styled baptisms.) On Wednesday night, CBS News in Chicago reported, “The longtime pastor of a northwest Indiana church has been dismissed due to an ‘improper relationship with a young woman.’Dr. Jack Schaap, who has been pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond for 11 years, was removed Tuesday, according to a church spokesman.”

While Darrell has done an amazing job with a handful of posts over the past few days at Stuff Fundies Like, those of you unfamiliar with Schaap or fundamentalism in general, might want to start with this summary at BDBO.

Note: At SFL there’s are highlights of an audio feed [Note: Mature Content] of a sermon that Schaap did on teen sexuality. While hindsight is always 20/20, I’d like to observe here that if your pastor is obsessed about sex, or extremely explicit about sex in his sermons –whether it’s Ed Young or Mark Driscoll — that might be a red flag. 

Also at SFL today there is a video of a talk that Lynda Hyles Murphy did after media reports — which she affirms — that FBC Hammond was a cult. The similarity between this and the audio feed of the interview with the granddaughter of TBN founders Paul and Jan Crouch is uncanny.



  1. I also wanted to add an observation from Darrell at SFL:

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! In the wake of recent events, this phrase has been taken up like a battle cry by those who wish to defend the sinful actions of a man who (ironically enough) has spent his entire career throwing stones…

    And this:

    When your pastor is the final authority on what God says to the point where he himself attains the status of a demigod then it must be a crushing blow to realize that he is nothing but an idol with his feet stuck in the mire.

    Comment by paulthinkingoutloud — August 6, 2012 @ 9:48 pm

  2. Reblogged this on GoodOleWoody's Blog and Website.

    Comment by goodolewoody — August 7, 2012 @ 5:50 am

  3. Fools! Dr. Hyles laid upon the foundation of christ to masterfully direct first baptist church to become this century’s greatest church! To attempt to connect him to schapp’s folly is ludicrous! Too, any father can see that linda hyles murphey is being dishonest and rebellious toward her father and the rich heritage laid out before her!

    Comment by william m jackson — November 23, 2012 @ 10:52 pm

    • Thanks for writing how ludicrous this video of Linda is. We lived in Hammond at the time when the Hyles children were growing up and Linda was a spoiled brat. Notice that she never remarried after divorcing Johnny 18 years ago. She stills has his name..I wish someone would take her to court and so that the world can see the vicdict that she is a liar. She would have to prove everything she has said. She can lie in the media but she would have to prove her case to the court. I wrote Mrs. Hyles after the video came out from her daughter. I told her all about it. She replied and said that all through the ages the man of God has been vilified by the oppressors. She is unshaken by her daughter accusations because they are lies. Anybody with any logic will hear her claims and laugh. I loved First Baptist Church when Dr. Hyles was pastor and the memories I have of this great church will always be good ones.

      Comment by Jean Williams — January 14, 2013 @ 1:30 pm

  4. Linda is right on the mark. I grew up there. The thousands of sheep were ready to jump with him.

    Comment by Victor — January 20, 2013 @ 2:43 am

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