Thinking Out Loud

May 7, 2012

Missing Link in Story of Pastor Advocating Beating Effiminate Boys

Filed under: current events, parenting — Tags: , , , , — paulthinkingoutloud @ 10:55 am

Maybe I’m not the only one to make this connection, but I haven’t run across it online so far.

Last week one of the top religious stories concerned Pastor Sean Harris of Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville who suggested that if your boy is acting girly, he needs corporal punishment.  You can watch a 2-minute video of the original statement at SFL

“Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk right over there and crack that wrist….Give him a good punch…”

At the same site is a link to a sermon audio where the pastor — after the news story had gone viral — issued a retraction.  You can access that audio here.

But there’s a couple of dots in this story that I haven’t seen people connecting.  One reader sent me a link to the original story at The Advocate, an LGBT news site.  (I asked him how he ended up there, and he assured me I don’t have anything to worry about.)  When I clicked the link, they had already done this follow up story about the retraction, but had added a new picture.

And that’s when the lights went on:

Yes, “No Greater Joy,” which just happens to be the same name of the organization of Michael and Debi Pearl, who just happen to be somewhat renown for their advocacy of rather severe corporal punishment for children who misbehave.

You can read about that at When Child Discipline Goes Too Far here at Thinking Out Loud, and later, Petition Launched to Stop Sales of To Train up a Child.   If you want to go outside this blog, there’s this story, and this story,

Now, in fairness, the t-shirt is actually connected to a retreat that took place at Sean’s church, Berean Baptist.  And it is a scripture reference to III John 1:4.  But why would you choose that name?  It has been somewhat tarnished, unless you just happen to be onside with the Pearl’s parenting doctrine. Possible answers:

  1. Just a coincidence
  2. Someone has read the Pearl’s materials and the name stuck either consciously or sub-consciously
  3. There’s more than a direct connection

For those of us who know the Pearl’s story all too well, answers 2 and 3 become rather problematic, don’t you think? 


  1. Reblogged this on GoodOleWoody's Blog and Website.

    Comment by goodolewoody — May 7, 2012 @ 1:02 pm

  2. I’ve often had a particular thought with regard to the atrocities of torture and ultimate death (murder) of children, and even adults. This thought isn’t based upon any scripture in a direct sense (although the ‘thief’ on the cross receiving some sort of comforting assurance from Jesus comes to mind), but probably more of a wish, or a “it has to be something like this.”

    To wit:

    Immediately after an abused and murdered child’s spirit has left his or her body, notwithstanding the inordinate pain and suffering experienced immediately beforehand, this child is so caught up and bathed in such an indescribably wonderful sensation of light and love of the Savior that all memory of the atrocity(ies) suffered in mortality, or at least the painful and deleterious effects of it, are completely erased and cease to be ever more. Hence, although the child (or adult) did suffer terribly at the hands of monsters (devils, fiends), the ‘end’ or state of existence which really matters, i.e., living throughout the eternities in Heavenly bliss, is more than compensated for. In fact, perhaps that experience will have made these children more like Christ in that they will be able to identify more with His quintessential suffering. Maybe they will be the ones who can really understand what it means to be able to say, “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Although I must admit, whenever I come across stories like this I’m not so prone to offer up such a petition for these monsters. Maybe more like, “Yeah, sure, Father forgive them, but before you do send them first to the deepest pits of hell for a long time.”

    Anyway, “it has to be something like this”.

    Comment by vikingz2000 — May 7, 2012 @ 1:43 pm

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