Thinking Out Loud

October 13, 2010

Wednesday Link List

  • Our opening cartoon this week celebrates the release of David Hayward’s first cartoon book, Naked Pastor 101, which is available as a download, e-book, or paperback.  Simply click anywhere on the image to learn more.
  • The lastest news from Donald Miller and Steve Taylor is that the movie based on the book Blue Like Jazz is back on again.
  • After 30 years, Charisma magazine finally gets around to interviewing the man considered “the first Pentecostal scholar,” Regent College New Testament professor Gordon Fee.
  • Steve McQuilkin has a problem.   He’s “burst out out of the Christian bubble,” but all his old friends are alienating his new friends by speaking in Christianese on social media, which IMHO, is never a good idea even when it’s only our ‘in group’ in the audience.
  • And speaking of alienation, here’s an excellent article for worship leaders (and staff musicians, tech people, etc.)  on prioritizing your loved ones; under the title How Not To Be A Jerk to Your Family.  [HT: Worship Community]
  • Really enjoyed our weekend visit to Carruther’s Creek Community Church at the east end of greater Toronto.   John Thompson is the young pastor in what must be one of the largest churches in the AGC denomination, and they now offer recent sermons on video.
  • So what’s your guess on how many men in your church have a ‘problem’ with pornography?   An article at — people who should know — suggests you could be looking at something around 50%.
  • Next Tuesday (10/19) listen to a live interview with author Philip Yancey on the occasion of the release of his new book, What Good Is God? at 1:30 PM at Blog Talk Radio.
  • The staff at Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kansas produced a five-minute, single-camera, single-take video celebrating their 20th anniversary.   Enjoy watching, and if you’ve got another five minutes, watch them making the video at BeDeviant.
  • Not sure you’re hearing from God?   This week’s Christianity 201 link is a quote from Bill Hybels’ The Power of a Whisper (Zondervan) about getting God’s voice to be heard over the noise in our lives.
  • I’ve also been hearing about another Zondervan book — one that Hybels himself could have written — Coffee Shop Conversations by Dale & Jonalyn Fincher.   I was reminded of it again reading Audra Krell’s blog.
  • So what would the people in your church do if Donald Trump turned up for Sunday worship?   Probably not seat him at the back.
  • Here’s another one of those “top blog” web pages, this one purporting to be the “top youth ministry blogs;” though as I pointed out a few weeks ago, the motivation for these sites is somewhat dubious.
  • Here’s a new version of sermon bingo just for fundamentalists from the blog Stuff Fundies Like (click on image to link).


  1. “Fundie bingo” now? What kind of hardened heart finds delight in making fun of your brothers and sisters in Christ, as if you weren’t flawed and saved by Grace – same as them.

    Sorry…I don’t condone christian hate anywhere. You lost another reader.

    Comment by Laura — October 14, 2010 @ 4:30 am

    • Laura, let’s be perfectly honest here: You’ve already indicated a distaste for the particular website where this originates, and you’ve already had that discussion with the site’s author, who, I think, was very gracious about the whole thing.

      You are among a number of people who either (a) doesn’t get Christian humor or Christian satire; or (b) doesn’t think we should ever have the ability to laugh at ourselves; or (c) is so deeply immersed in a type of Christian culture that you can’t see the forest for the trees.

      But we’d already established that in a previous comment thread.

      What gets me is your use of the word “hate.” Really, Laura? You see hate in this? To be bigoted against a pastor who refers to the pulpit as a “sacred desk” or tells a lot of “wife stories” on Sunday morning might be a little narrow… it’s in the cumulative effect of putting all these things together with the premise you’re going to hear them all in a single sermon — which in a strict fundamentalist church you’re actually likely to, even in 2010 — is what takes this from prejudicial to just plain funny.

      And I’m sorry that you don’t see it or aren’t allowed to laugh at it.

      BTW, for what it’s worth, “hardened hearts” don’t engage. They walk away. They are apathetic. Most of us read something like this and it’s very easy to resonate with the spirit of it, and that is fully compatible — to me at least — with being indwelt by the Spirit of Christ. But you’re coming from the position of equating SFL with an atheist website/blog, and I don’t think anything the author has told you about himself has changed your mind on that.

      …I’m sorry, but this “bingo” thing is simply an excellent snapshot of a certain kind of preaching which worked well 100 years ago (maybe) but is now a bit of antiquity; and actually, pausing now to read it again, I can’t help but smile and I’ll even go so far as to suggest I think God does, too.

      Comment by Paul Wilkinson — October 14, 2010 @ 9:16 am

  2. Paul, I don’t know what to tell you except pray about it.
    I challenge you to ask your readers if Fundie Preacher bingo made them uncomfortable in their heart and soul, and why. I dare say, you will be surprised. As for me, your blog has become ineffective and unproductive in my knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Peter 1:3-9), and I wish you no ill.

    “If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose. Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.” ~Philippians 2:1-4

    Comment by Laura — October 14, 2010 @ 3:18 pm

  3. For the record, I found it worth a chuckle and did not have anything at all to do with “hate”.

    Comment by Robert — October 31, 2010 @ 12:44 pm

  4. The blog post in question was not in the least bit offensive. As a new reader of this blog, these are the things i ENCOURAGE the author to post. Laura, to use your terms, i also “wish you no ill” but quite frankly the attitude you are showing towards this post, is exactly what turns people AWAY from Christianity. Relax, say a prayer, and have a chuckle. Great stuff Paul

    Comment by Sheldon — November 3, 2010 @ 12:23 pm

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