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March 31, 2011
Christianity 201
200 People Are Skipping Church on Palm Sunday
I’ve never been prouder of an initiative launched by the church we’ve attended — off and on — for 20 years since moving an hour east of Toronto.
Call it “reaching out,” or “community involvement,” or whatever you want. Cobourg Alliance Church has decided to participate — in a huge way — in the annual walk for Multiple Sclerosis; a walk which just happens to fall on Palm Sunday, what most would consider the third most important Sunday of the year after Easter Sunday and Christmas Sunday.
The church will still hold worship services for those who wish to attend, but the nearly 200 people who have signed up so far is a significant percentage of the regular attendance at church in this town of only 18,500.
Participation also means fundraising, and the pastor, Andre Turcotte, is hoping that the church will be one of the top fundraisers in the area. Those who can’t walk significant distances will be acting as volunteers. There are five individuals and/or families in the church dealing with MS.
I’m sure that organizers of events like this notice a dearth of participation from churchgoers when the events are held on a Sunday. “Skipping Church” is a big sacrifice for those who grew up believing the place to be on Sunday morning is singing the hymns and listening to a sermon.
Instead, this congregation will be busy “being church.”
Though we will be leading worship at another church that Sunday, we will be watching this with interest, and praying that it shows to the local community that Christ followers are willing to, literally, put feet to their beliefs; not just ‘talking the talk,’ but, literally, ‘walking the walk.’
March 30, 2011
March 29, 2011
When Youth Ministry is Priced Out of Reach
Youth Pastor: …So guys, thanks for coming out tonight, I think we all had a great night, and don’t forget to bring five dollars with you next week. I can’t tell you what it’s for, but don’t forget… five dollars. Goodnight.
[30 Minutes later]
Student Youth Intern: So can you tell me what the five dollars is for?
Youth Pastor: Actually, I haven’t decided yet. But these kids all come from wealthy families and we’ll do something off-budget that we wouldn’t have done. Maybe we’ll just order pizza.
Youth ministry is pricey.
Or maybe it’s just that ministry is pricey.
A piece at this blog a few weeks ago about camp ministry ended up generating some comments about the costs of sending kids to summer camp, comments which were heartfelt, but a little bit of an aside to the intended main topic of that article.
Then last week, my review of the Passion 2011 Conference music CD resulted in some off-blog discussion urging me to tackle the subject of the cost of youth ministry.
There are three ways to look at this, the first of which I’ve hinted at in the introductory ‘skit’ for this blog post, which is to consider all the “extras” parents are expected to dig deep into their pockets for, both at church and school.
In the state province where I live, the Governor Premier has just ordered the Department Ministry of Education to follow a new set of guidelines with respect to what parents can be asked to shell out for their children’s education.
There are various articles online about this, like this one, which notes:
Fifty-three per cent of Ontario high schools charge fees for art classes, 41 per cent charge fees for physical education and 26 per cent impose extra costs for music courses…
This results in the new directive:
Ontario’s Ministry of Education has released new guidelines clarifying when a school can ask students for extra cash.
Under the guidelines, released Friday, schools cannot charge for textbooks, science lab materials, art supplies or musical instruments.
Schools cannot apply a fee to anything that is mandatory, essential for classroom learning, or the completion of a course, including a student registration fee.
“There should be absolutely no fee associated with any requirement for course completion for graduation,” Education Minister Leona Dombrowsky said.
It is in this type of environment that youth pastors have felt no hesitation in asking the kids — most of whom turn around and ask their parents — to bring money for this, that, and the other thing.
But there’s a second concern here: On budget, youth ministry can be staff intensive. In a somewhat smaller church we attended a few years back, there were five staff positions. Two were the senior pastor and the secretary. The other three were for a children’s ministry director, a youth ministry director, and a youth intern. In a town where many college-aged kids left town eight months of the year, it was not lost on the older people in the church that 60% of the church staff were ministering to the needs of people under age 18.
The third area where youth ministry gets expensive has to do with the costs of print materials and curriculum. As someone who is employed in a business that sells youth ministry materials, you’d expect me not to bite the hand that feeds. In truth however, the cynic in me sees a few hungry publishers simply trying to carve out their piece of the pie. Sorry, but someone needs to say that.
Everyone is tripping over everyone else trying to be first in line for a piece of the action. After all, the churches have the money, right?
The pastor’s wife had rarely not been at his side in their nearly 40 years of ministry, but bedridden with the flu, he trudged the walkway from the manse to the church alone that Sunday night.
When he returned two hours later, she asked him, “Did you give an invitation?”
He smiled and replied, “Yes, and I had two-and-a-half people come forward.”
She stared at him for a few seconds, and then said, “You mean two adults and a child?”
He winked at her and responded, “Nope. Two kids and an adult.”
The above story is meant to convey that, with their whole lives stretched out before them, the faith steps of a child or teen are vitally important. And many people who espouse this will say that you can’t put a price on reaching a young person with the saving message of Jesus Christ.
But somewhere along the line, that evolved into a thinking that ministry can take place on a fee-for-service basis. And it’s further complicated when the fees have to be paid “up front” before a child or teen can attend or participate in the event in question. And it’s even further complicated when the group is a mix of “have” and “have not” families; wealthier families mixing with people who have had to deal with foreclosures or evictions.
So it’s not surprising that some people are concerned about the effect of all this on the poorer kids on the fringes.
I’m concerned about the message that it sends to all the kids.
…Last time I checked, the gospel was supposed to be free.
March 28, 2011
March 27, 2011
Howard Jones: What is Hell Anyway?
Earlier this week, I decided to go out on a limb on Christianity 201, my devotional blog, and introduce a few readers to Greg Boyd, pastor of Woodland Hills Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota. But before I embedded Greg’s sermon on Hell — spread out over three videos — I decided to write what was probably the largest disclaimer I’ve ever done.
For that one however, I skipped the Howard Jones reference. But if someone’s got the time, I think “What is Hell Anyway” would be a timely song parody…
Unless you’ve been living in a cave for the past three weeks, you’re well aware that a popular Christian author has caused there to be much discussion on the doctrine of hell. Sample topics include, but are not limited to:
- Is hell a physical reality or is it figurative language?
- What determines who goes to heaven and who goes to hell?
- Is hell eternal; does it last “forever?”
- Are there people who initially reject Christ who will somehow “accept” Him after death?
- How is the concept of hell consistent with the loving, gracious nature of God?
…and so it goes.
Who engages in these discussions? Again, the list includes, but isn’t limited to:
- People who have their minds made up, and militantly defend their position and refute all other views; some of whom view themselves as somewhat ‘contaminated’ by merely listening to other viewpoints.
- People who simply like a good argument; people who enjoy the endorphin release that comes with lively, passionate debate, or enjoy the ‘game’ of just asking the awkward questions.
- People who are genuinely seeking answers; people new to faith; people confused by the variants of doctrinal positions.
- People who are relatively established in their faith, but are interested in exploring how others interpret scripture and how that affects their beliefs in other doctrinal areas.
- People who don’t regard their views on secondary doctrinal matters as
“set in stone” and would be open to reconsider their position of the points raised by those of different opinions were persuasive.
I think we need to ask ourselves, “Which kind of person am I? Do I just like a good fight? Or am I truly seeking for some answers? Or am I simply open to hear how those with different takes reconcile other doctrinal matters?”
At that point, I introduced the videos, which you’re welcomed to watch. T.O.L. readers can leave comments here at this post. Link here for the sermon videos.
March 26, 2011
Passion’s Passion Evident on New Worship CD
Music Review
If someone asked you if you’ve heard the new Chris Tomlin album, you would be forgiven for saying, “Which one?” While And If Our God is For Us is topping the Christian music charts, six of the twelve songs on Here for You were either written or co-written by Tomlin.
His music defines the sound of modern worship in U.S. churches, so that’s why I’ve begun this review of the new Passion album with a reference to the man who was arguably its weightiest contributor. Additional songs were written by other recognizable names including Rueben Morgan, Martin Smith, Matt Redman, Louis Giglio, Matt Maher and David Crowder.
In terms of performance, five of the twelve songs are performed by Tomlin, with an additional one co-credited to Matt Redman with additional songs featuring David Crowder Band, Kristian Stanfill, Kristy Nockels and LeCrae (this being, after all, a youth-oriented project.)
With the exception of LeCrae — for me anyway, not being a rapper — these are very accessible, ready-to-sing worship songs. The inclusion of Rueben Morgan is a good place to suggest that Here for You is very similar, on several levels, to the youth oriented worship of Hillsong United.
The live album was recorded mere weeks ago, at the Passion 2011 conference with more than 20,000 university-aged students in Atlanta, Georgia on January 1st-4th, 2011.
One of my favorite songs is Symphony, which will probably turn out to become better known as “Stand in Awe.”
The deepest oceans, rising mountains
How they sing your symphony
Let the earth fear the Lord
And all the people of the world
Stand in awe, Stand in awe.
…After listening to the album again yesterday, I considered continuing the usual song-by-song commentary, but I want to talk about the event itself.
In my day, the big youth events were summer festivals, but with the growth, rightly or wrongly, of the conference ‘industry,’ more opportunities are available for youth to connect with youth from other parts of the continent for corporate worship, contemporary concerts and some of the best youth communicators.
If you’re in the target demographic for these things, you need to find a way to get to a couple, at least, before you outgrow the opportunity. If your church doesn’t send a group, start your own group, or latch on to another church’s group that’s going. The events are expensive, but just skip a couple of video games.
If you’re outside the target demographic, but live near an event taking place, find out if they need adult volunteers. Personally, I’d be thrilled just to be standing outside in the hallway when a thing like this is happening.
Finally, if you’re not only outside the target demographic, but are fairly certain you’d find the music far too loud, you can still be involved in something that is huge in the spiritual formation of a young person. Consider sponsoring some teens in your church, or, better yet, setting up a subsidy fund that brings the price further below the advertised group rates. No kid should be denied an opportunity for spiritual growth simply because they can’t afford it, and even in the most affluent churches, there are kids who can’t afford it.
I say all that because with a live conference recording like this, there’s a tendency to end the review with a trite, “You had to be there.” But in truth, “You need to be there.” Don’t miss the next one.
…I tried to find some good YouTube clips from the conference so you could get the general idea, but they just don’t exist, so for now, I’m going to use this unofficial overview, which had only had about 90 views as of last night:
March 25, 2011
Accidental Anglican

I realized yesterday morning that I’ve accidentally become an Anglican.
Well, sort of.
You see, as an Evangelical, we base everything on the sermon. As the sermon goes, so goes the service. As the sermon went, so went the service. And you could say, as the sermon will go, so will go the service. That’s why, for example, people don’t say, “I go to North Point;” they say, “I go to Andy Stanley’s Church;” as if he owns it or something.
We like good preaching.
We also like good worship, but that’s not really a biggie since its now been proven that the Top 100 Churches in America — as selected by Outreach Magazine — are all using the same MIDI loops of Majesty, I Will Follow, and (for less cutting edge congregations) Revelation Song.
So given the choice, we choose on the basis of a good sermon.
I have three choices this weekend.
The preaching will be great at all three.
So I’m making my choice based on some advance information on the worship. As it turns out, I have in my computer the exact worship setlists from two of my three choices for the weekend services. This the worship-nerd equivalent of insider-trading information.
In other words, I’m choosing based on the liturgy. I’m prioritizing the liturgy. And as every good mainline Protestant knows, as the liturgy goes so goes the service. As the liturgy went, so went the service. And you could say, as the liturgy will go, so will go the service.
I can’t decide if I’m being discriminating, or if I’m being shallow.
??
March 24, 2011
TSK on Bellgate
A couple of assorted Rob Bell related sentences from Andrew Jones aka Tall Skinny Kiwi:
- Sometimes I wonder whether the Christian church in our western countries has become, quite regrettably, a book club. (March 18)
- Tweeted by someone else: “More offended by the ugliness of the Evangelical response to Rob Bell than by anything he’s ever written.” (March 17)
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Rob Bell at 18 months: Universalist tendencies visibly apparent
“Farewell Rob Bell” has probably become the most famous Christian tweet of all time, even though no one really knows what John Piper meant by it. T-shirts will be made. Bumper stickers. The Farewell Rob Bell Bible? (March 13)
- Becky Garrison: I am commending HarperOne for a brilliant marketing plan that got their product out there in a very horrible market. (Comment on post March 13)
- They [the new generation of Christians] will desire a view of the end times that moves beyond a Jack Chick hell, a Left Behind rapture, and a Hal Lindsay burning-planet-ecology. (March 17)
- Becky Garrison (again!): I’d like to mention that HarperOne has a slew of books coming out on this topic – Evolution of Faith (Philip Gulley), Desmond Tutu (God is Not a Christian), Speaking Christian (Marcus Borg) and whatever NT Wright is cranking out… (Comment to March 17 post.)
- It will be interesting to see how they [Bell and N. T. Wright] differ, if they differ at all. I notice that Wright’s book remains quite unchallenged by critics compared to what Rob Bell is about to put out. Maybe its weaker theologically and therefore an easier target. (Comment to March 9th post).
Tall Skinny Kiwi. Bookmark it. Visit often. A breath of fresh air guaranteed. (But maybe Becky should get her own blog. Oh wait…)
March 23, 2011
March 22, 2011
March 21, 2011
When Bible Translation Has Nothing To Do With Books

I’m a bit of a Bible bigot.
My prejudices have nothing to do with a particular translation. No, we don’t more of those people running around. My bias has to do with the form the finished Bible takes.
I asked someone recently what they think the Bible translation process involves. They gave me the answer I expected, the answer I would have given until just days ago:
- Missionary translators learn the local language
- The language is put it written form
- The native people are taught how to read their own language
- The New Testament (usually beginning with John’s gospel) is translated into that written language
- Printed copies of the completed books are given out
Great concept. Sometimes, that’s how it’s done. But overall this view has one problem: It doesn’t match the experience of many people working to bring the story of Jesus to remote tribes.
The problem is with the words: “Read,” “books,” “printed,” “written.”
Many of the world’s peoples are not readers. It’s not that they are illiterate in the sense that a young man living on the streets of Detroit is not able to read in the middle of a culture full of literates. It’s not that they are illiterate in the sense of a woman in Atlanta whose makeshift home is insulated with newspapers containing words she cannot understand.
Rather, it’s because, half a world away, theirs is a culture of orality. No, I’d never heard the word before, either. Simply put, they are oral learners.
We’re talking about people who would benefit much more from an audio Bible than one bound in bonded leather with gold edged pages. Think about it: Once translators had acquired the language verbally, they could immediately produce a verbal (spoken) translation of the Bible, and then disseminate it using some kind of playback device.
But how to do that in an age where cassettes break and CD players skip or wear out?
Enter mp3 technology. The time is right. The time is now.
And that’s the theory behind MegaVoice. The term describes
- a team of people assembling a library currently consisting of 8,400 Scripture-based audio titles in 4,600 languages and dialects (see below), including languages and dialects you’ve never heard of.
- the playback devices themselves: a solar powered mp3 player that has no moving parts and never needs batteries.
- the organization itself that oversees this, and liaises with other mission agencies and Bible translation ministries.
For me, learning about MegaVoice has been a paradigm-shattering experience that has changed everything I’ve believed about how the translation process and the evangelization process works. I live in a world of text, a world of print media, and the possibility of such a widespread population of oral communicators simply never occurred to me.
So that said, I’m going to come back to MegaVoice again here at some point in the future. But if you’re one of the needle-in-a-haystack people reading this who is truly challenged by the possibilities this raises, I want to link you a .pdf file of a book, Making Disciples of Oral Learners, originally written as a paper published for the Lausanne Committee for World Evangelization in Thailand in the fall of 2004, and published in 2005.
When you link to the book, start reading at page 3 and pay particular attention to the part from page 3 to page 30.
And if you’re one of the blessed people who is always looking for a project worthy of financial support, consider directly supporting this ministry. Whether in print copies or audio copies, the Word of God is still powerful, and doesn’t just “bounce off the walls,” but will accomplish great things in peoples’ lives. (Isaiah 55:11)
March 20, 2011
Oh My! Good Christian -itches Set to Debut on TV This Fall
The book’s title probably insures there won’t be copies sold in too many Christian bookstores. Which may be good or bad depending on how you feel about confronting the issue of people (i.e. women) who appear sanctimonious on the outside, but are in fact, often about a different agenda, especially the gossip agenda.
Surely the book could have been released with a different title, right? Perhaps, but then, the author says it might not reach its intended audience. Author Kim Gatlin was interviewed yesterday on the Drew Marshall Show, probably one of the few such “Christian radio” interviews she’s done. The station wouldn’t allow him to say the third word in the book’s title. You can hear that interview when it’s posted on Friday (3/25) at this site.
The scary part of all this is that the book is going to become a TV series in the fall. On network television, not cable. NBC, I think. Hanging out “our” dirty laundry for all to see, I suppose.
Here’s what the website has to say:
Good Christian []itches is the devilishly fun, yet strikingly honest, tale of Amanda Vaughn, a recently divorced mother of two. To get a fresh start, she moves back to the affluent Dallas neighborhood where she grew up. In an Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Desperate Housewives on steroids style, her old friends are already out to destroy her reputation.
In the whirling midst of salacious gossip, Botox, and fraud, Amanda turns to those who love her and the faith she’s always known. Will the Good Christian []itches get the best of her, or will everyone see that these GCBs are as counterfeit as their travel jewelry?
Before you think that perhaps the description here describes a Christian fringe that doesn’t identify with your own church experience, you might want to look at — and take — the “Are You a GCB?” 15-question quiz at the website.
My take:
I think the author truly sees an intrinsic value in all this. A means to an end, perhaps.
Honesty and transparency in the church is something I am 100% in favor of. We need to be real about our failings, our foibles and our faults. But that should be part of the natural process of living. This TV shows strikes me as rather gratuitous attack on Christianity. And no matter what the book has to offer, the television writers will have licensed the concept and will be creating original scripts that will go off in all kinds of directions.
Like Canada’s hit “Little Mosque on the Prairie” TV series, the writers will probably follow the tendency to portray churchgoers and clergy negatively to get laughs.
That’s what has me worried.
That, and being in a position that forces true Christ-followers — especially some Evangelicals — to go into damage control mode.
March 19, 2011
Churches Can’t Hurt People; People Hurt People
While it’s only one year old, I want to rerun this piece because there’s a lot of hurtin’ goin’ on out there. It’s a post that was a continuation of my wife’s guest post a year plus one day ago. At the time, I promised I would return to some of the issues raised to look at them objectively.
A year later, I am only beginning to realize the level of the abuse she suffered. If she had been raped by the church elder who presided over the meeting she attended, there would be an outcry. Because it was only spiritual abuse, her situation is ignored. For her sake, I refuse to let these issues die…
1. How long does a person attend your church before they are considered for service?
Andy Stanley’s Fortune 500 survey company found that in the first five weeks at NorthPoint, newcomers are already trying to “discern next steps,” and possible areas of active involvement. On the other hand, when 60′s rocker Barry McGuire came to Christ, his pastor suggested the famed composer/singer should take a seat in the back row to grow and nurture his faith — for a full year! Some say that in a small town church, “Once a visitor, always a visitor.” Where’s the balance? Of course, in my wife’s case, she wasn’t exactly a newcomer, which brings us to…
2. When someone who was a former member of your church returns, does their past experience count for anything?
Clearly, some churches expect you to jump through all the hoops as though you’d never been there before. One woman who wrote us off-the-blog put it this way, “It’s when your motives are questioned and you had thought you had enough ‘capital’ in years of service to be trusted…” Churches will have “Celebration Sundays” to revel in their glorious past history, but if someone who is part of that history should return, that experience, even if it involved some tough pioneering, isn’t always respected. For my wife to be classed as a “visitor” is simply too much kommel-bonnaugery. Which brings us to…
3. Is someone who has only been part of a church for ten years truly fit to reprimand, discipline or judge someone whose history with that church goes back twenty years?
Part of the problem in the body of Christ is that we really don’t know each other. But it gets even more complicated when people who have given years of service are being judged — or spiritually abused — by people who, despite their convictions otherwise, don’t know all there is to know. (Or worse, have been given short ‘debriefs’ by a departing pastor about individuals in the church, not unlike those student files kept in the school office.) Sometimes, this problem manifests itself where a church member finds themselves being rebuked by someone half their age. There may be Biblical precedent for that, but it’s still unnatural, and can be avoided by appointing a different mediator. Which brings us to…
4. Are the elders in your church really “elder,” or were they chosen by some other standard?
Some churches really need to bring back the concept of elders and deacons. (See the story in Acts 7 on the choosing of Stephen for the nuances.) Some elders are on the church board for the wrong reasons, like, for example, their wives talked them into it. Some elders truly “represent” the congregation in a democratic sense, while others see themselves as a sub-priestly class of elite members. Again, another comment received this week; “…as I think you sense, the leadership there is like a team of soldiers walking through enemy territory with the rank and file members and adherents being ‘the enemy!’ It feels as if there are the leaders and then there are the rest of us — the leaders being a select group of others who think alike and run the show.” Which brings us to…
5. What about Church leaders who will look you right in the eye and lie through their teeth? Is that ever justified?
The conversation my wife had revealed a number of statements which, at the very least, were absolute non sequiturs. They told her that she was unfit to lead because people in the congregation didn’t know her, yet just three weeks before that, I had to ask four different people to find out the name of the woman who had led worship that week. My wife was baptized there. Our children were dedicated there. Her husband served on paid staff there for four years. And nobody knows her? Maybe what this is all about is really…
6. Is the elders’ board of a church really where the heart of ministry is taking place? Or even in touch with the real ministry happening?
I doubt that. In fact, if you really want to see corporate life change (aka spiritual formation) take place and they ask you to serve on an administrative board, run as fast you can in the other direction. “Run, Forrest, run!” Just wanting to serve on one of these boards is like wanting to run for public office. And being involved in service is just as political, where you do everything you can to keep your reputation ahead of actual service. And just as in politics, these people will do everything they can to keep people off the stage who might, through raw authenticity and transparency, challenge their carefully developed status quo. People like that are, simply put, a threat. This is not where organic leadership is taking place. Which bring us to…
7. Do people in your church get hurt or wounded or abused?
My wife was told that placing herself in profile ministry meant she was leaving herself open to hurt. Was this an admission on their part that this is a church that hurts people? The church leadership should bear ultimate responsibility for any hurting, wounding or abusing that takes place within their province. Furthermore they should be strive to make their church a place of healing; a place of grace. Decisions taken at the board level which are simply leading to further hurt should be considered a worst-case scenario. But this is likely to happen because…
8. Can a church leader be doing “the Lord’s work” and at the same time be about “the Devil’s business?”
Absolutely. People are flawed. They are going to get caught up in what “may seem right,” but actually take perverse delight in stabbing someone and then twisting the knife. Any high school student who has studied Shakespeare knows enough about human nature to know that these personality types are out there. As Mark Antony says, “These are honorable men.” It’s all about building their kingdom and especially their desire for power and control. So the obvious question is…
9. Why do we keep coming back?
Small(er) towns don’t offer people the advantage of packing up and moving to another church. The mix of evangelism, teaching, worship, doctrinal slant, demographic composition; combined with an individual’s history in a place; plus a blind optimism that someday things will improve; all these things sometimes mean that there is literally nowhere else to go. (And trust us, we’ve done the church plant thing, too; it was a great experience; but the plants died or got put on haitus for other reasons.) Besides, this church is our HOME. Figuratively, those are our kids’ height marks on the back of the door; that’s our kids’ artwork on the refrigerator; not so figuratively, that’s the corner where I prayed with that woman for a dramatic healing; that’s the song my wife taught the congregation just a few years ago; that’s the weekly group that we started.
10. Is it possible that it’s just time to step aside and let another generation have their turn?
If that’s the case, the people working so hard to evict us from active ministry have only four or five years left themselves. And they are perpetuating a system which will truly come back to haunt them. But then again, many of the people doing worship service leadership in Canada are much older than their U.S. counterparts. So while a part of me is lamenting my wife’s loss of opportunity to do the thing she loves, and the thing she’s most gifted to do, I keep watching the horizon for that young, unshaven guy with a guitar over his shoulder who is going to bounce this crowd off the stage and, with his peers, bounce this particular collection of elders out of the church boardroom.
I guess that sounds a bit mean spirited, but honestly, things can only get better. Things can only improve. Of course I’ve said that before…
The new pastor who had arrived around this time continues to distance himself from my wife’s situation by saying he doesn’t want to interfere in departmental decisions. He may have bought into the organized tainting of her reputation. He’s never heard her speak or lead worship.
She returns for visits at my insistence — I have my own history and roots in this church — but is extremely uncomfortable, as you would expect someone to be if, using the example I started with, someone who had raped them was making the announcements or leading the worship. The new pastor has the utmost respect for this guy. I suppose time will tell. No, wait; I know time will tell.
What’s worse, the hurting continues; another person, with so much to offer this church, recently left. He’s hurting and broken over it, and I am hurting for him. He’s trying to find another church home. You just want to grab some of these so-called church leaders and start shaking them and shaking them and shaking them… Bastards! Sorry. Only word I can find right now.
On the plus side, my wife is currently on a monthly worship rotation at another church and attends there most other weeks also. They give her the freedom of a half hour worship set to explore the depth of worship, to produce original videos, to write contemplative and sobering liturgies and to include off-the-wall fun stuff, too. Their gain is the other church’s tragic loss.
Related post: April 4, 2008 – Growing Deep Roots – Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name… and they’re always glad you came.
Related post: May 1, 2008 – Choosing a Church – This post is where I came up with the phrase, “a place where you can be comfortable being broken.” and the footnote, “When you have true spiritual family in various places, they don’t mind it when you crash!”
March 18, 2011
Conversations
Wednesday night we had dinner with a guy who lives, breathes, eats and sleeps hockey. His sons play and he played professionally overseas for several years. It’s (almost) all he talks about. Fortunately, there’s been a hockey story making the evening news this week up here in Canada — involving the serious body check resulting in a head injury to a Montreal NHL player — and I was able to chime in on two occasions, but mostly I just listened.
Yesterday, I had lunch with someone whose position on Wal-Mart is the exact opposite of our own. (I know it sounds like we eat out a lot, and believe me, we don’t.) For us, the issues are primarily the whole balance of trade thing, especially as it affects the U.S., and the issue of cheaply made goods simply breaking down. But she went past the “sweat shops” argument and stated that Wal-Mart suppliers are raising the quality of life for workers overseas, citing one particular place where factory staff who formerly had to walk to work were able to buy bicycles and were saving for mopeds.
I was so impressed by the passion that both these people had for their subjects even though (a) in the former case I knew nothing about hockey and (b) in the second case I still disagree somewhat.
So what are you passionate about?
Usually I don’t repeat material here that isn’t at least a year old, but I want to repeat three questions that I ran here back in April of last year. Consider:
- What’s the first thing you think about when you get up in the morning? — In Pat Robertson’s original autobiography, Shout it from the Housetops — before he became a target of both Christians and non-Christians for outrageous statements to the media — he was a local church pastor who had a church board member trying to make the point that Robertson was more obsessed with starting a Christian television network than he was with leading a church congregation. (He jokingly added, “The first thing I think about is wishing you [the church board member] would get saved…”) Still, regardless of what you think of Pat — and I won’t post comments on that subject — it’s still a good question to address. What drives you from the moment your feet hit the floor?
- What do you talk about when it’s your chance to control the conversation? — I owe a debt to a Christian & Missionary Alliance young adults pastor for this one, but I can’t remember if it was Mike Wilkins or Bill McAlpine. Analyze yourself and others to see to what people turn their attention when the conversation reaches a “redirect” point. “Out of the abundance of the heart… “ “Whatever is in your heart determines what you say…” (NLT version of Matthew 12:34) “It’s your heart, not the dictionary, that gives meaning to your words.” (Same vs., The Message) It’s your chance to steer the direction of the discussion for the next few moments: Where are you going to take it?
- What do you want your life to be remembered for? — Everyone of us is writing a story, leaving a legacy. If you could get a few paragraphs in Wikipedia after you’re gone, how would those sentences read? If you could script your own funeral, how would you fill that time, talking about yourself in the third person? (i.e. “He was so very concerned about… and so totally passionate about…) Would that be an honest appraisal of what people see on a day-to-day basis?



Directories easily fit into the collection of things listed above (name tags, photo boards, etc.) but offer something else: A means to get in touch, or stay in touch with other people in your church throughout the week. You can call the kid’s teacher to see if he left his Bible in the classroom, ask the worship leader’s wife for the title of the book she mentioned in the lobby, and e-mail the woman who said she had a great recipe for carrot cake. You can see where people live, and the names of their children.

I must be the last person in the Christian blogosphere to get around to reading Crazy Love. I promised myself to write a review — probably the last review — of the book when I finished it this week, but I’m sure my words would be lost in the sea of reviews out there; and I really don’t have anything unique to add, other than Crazy Love is certainly worthy of the numbers of people who have read, and are continuing to read the book. 




